From bwiru80 at yahoo.com  Sun Aug  2 17:23:01 2009
From: bwiru80 at yahoo.com (Janice Dunkerton)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 16:23:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [ClassOf80] found someone
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Hi all, I just found Markus Schwartz - yahoo - he lives and works in Arusha.? Can't believe it.
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Hopefull, I will get more info on him and what he has been up too? in the last 30 years.? 
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Janice
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From maverick08 at earthlink.net  Mon Aug  3 12:36:14 2009
From: maverick08 at earthlink.net (Heidi Broward)
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 11:36:14 -0700
Subject: [ClassOf80] ClassOf80 Digest, Vol 67, Issue 1
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Wow!  How did you find him, Janice?

Heidi

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From: Janice Dunkerton <bwiru80 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [ClassOf80] found someone
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Hi all, I just found Markus Schwartz - yahoo - he lives and works in
Arusha.? Can't believe it.
?
Hopefull, I will get more info on him and what he has been up too? in the
last 30 years.? 
?
Janice
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From energynorm at yahoo.com  Mon Aug  3 21:55:07 2009
From: energynorm at yahoo.com (Stormin' Norman)
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 20:55:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [ClassOf80] found someone
In-Reply-To: <371221.96833.qm@web52911.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <557219.48176.qm@web112408.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

last? i heard (13 years ago)? he was at Texas A&M but we never met.

--- On Sun, 8/2/09, Janice Dunkerton <bwiru80 at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Janice Dunkerton <bwiru80 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [ClassOf80] found someone
To: "RVA class of '80" <classof80 at rvaalumni.org>
Date: Sunday, August 2, 2009, 6:23 PM








Hi all, I just found Markus Schwartz - yahoo - he lives and works in Arusha.? Can't believe it.
?
Hopefull, I will get more info on him and what he has been up too? in the last 30 years.? 
?
Janice
?

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From bwiru80 at yahoo.com  Tue Aug  4 06:22:44 2009
From: bwiru80 at yahoo.com (Janice Dunkerton)
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 05:22:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [ClassOf80] found someone
In-Reply-To: <557219.48176.qm@web112408.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <423669.59795.qm@web52911.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Hi all, I found Markus because he just joined the RVA?alumni database?on the RVA website.? Is that amazing?? I was just looking there to see if anyone has updated and up popped him. He goes by Markus Walsh now.? Not sure if he took his wife's name.? He emailed me back last night and had just been by RVA which prompted him to get back in touch.? He is going to send me a longer email later.? He works in Arusha at an Agricultural company.?
?
So if you want to email him- encourage him to come to the reunion, etc just to the www.rva.org and then to the alumni section and then you will see his address and email.? He would probably love to hear from anyone.
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From energynorm at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 11 22:34:14 2009
From: energynorm at yahoo.com (Stormin' Norman)
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 21:34:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [ClassOf80] My late beloved father
In-Reply-To: <423669.59795.qm@web52911.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <111868.87768.qm@web112420.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>



?
My father passed away on Friday the 7th and the funeral will be Friday the 14th.
?
A.H. Muraya, the former deputy director of Education for Kenya was 83.
He is survived by mum and all 6 offspring, who all provided at least one grand child.? In addition, he?had?4 great grand children.
?
He has been weak since his stroke 2 years ago.? In the last 6 months, he battled throat cancer courageously.? He refused treatment stating both his parents never woke up from their cancer operation?at a much younger age.? At the last 3 weeks we attempted?ICU and radiation?therapy to no avail.? 
?
I had time to prepare and spent quality time with him every year.? However, nothing can prepare you for the empty void?from?your hero all your life..? I will travel in December when my son has sufficient immune system to travel.
?
Thank you for your prayers and please continue to pray for mum.
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From tory at trwengineering.com  Wed Aug 12 07:18:34 2009
From: tory at trwengineering.com (Tory Walker)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:18:34 -0500
Subject: [ClassOf80] My late beloved father
In-Reply-To: <111868.87768.qm@web112420.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <423669.59795.qm@web52911.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<111868.87768.qm@web112420.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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My prayers are with you and your family, my friend.
Tory

From: Stormin' Norman [mailto:energynorm at yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 9:34 PM
To: RVA class of '80
Subject: [ClassOf80] My late beloved father



My father passed away on Friday the 7th and the funeral will be Friday the 14th.

A.H. Muraya, the former deputy director of Education for Kenya was 83.
He is survived by mum and all 6 offspring, who all provided at least one grand child.  In addition, he had 4 great grand children.

He has been weak since his stroke 2 years ago.  In the last 6 months, he battled throat cancer courageously.  He refused treatment stating both his parents never woke up from their cancer operation at a much younger age.  At the last 3 weeks we attempted ICU and radiation therapy to no avail.

I had time to prepare and spent quality time with him every year.  However, nothing can prepare you for the empty void from your hero all your life..  I will travel in December when my son has sufficient immune system to travel.

Thank you for your prayers and please continue to pray for mum.



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From bcsmithereens at gmail.com  Wed Aug 12 09:20:30 2009
From: bcsmithereens at gmail.com (Dawn Fehr)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:20:30 -0700
Subject: [ClassOf80] My late beloved father
In-Reply-To: <BD5D046C774E1548859199A99C27383715463634BA@34093-MBX-C03.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>
References: <423669.59795.qm@web52911.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<111868.87768.qm@web112420.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <a0d24650908120820p13743dd2v4f6ddb43b809b266@mail.gmail.com>

Norman,

Thinking of you and your family at this tender time in your lives.

Dawn

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 6:18 AM, Tory Walker <tory at trwengineering.com>wrote:

>  My prayers are with you and your family, my friend.
>
> Tory
>
>
>
> *From:* Stormin' Norman [mailto:energynorm at yahoo.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 11, 2009 9:34 PM
> *To:* RVA class of '80
> *Subject:* [ClassOf80] My late beloved father
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> My father passed away on Friday the 7th and the funeral will be Friday the
> 14th.
>
>
>
> A.H. Muraya, the former deputy director of Education for Kenya was 83.
>
> He is survived by mum and all 6 offspring, who all provided at least one
> grand child.  In addition, he had 4 great grand children.
>
>
>
> He has been weak since his stroke 2 years ago.  In the last 6 months, he
> battled throat cancer courageously.  He refused treatment stating both his
> parents never woke up from their cancer operation at a much younger age.  At
> the last 3 weeks we attempted ICU and radiation therapy to no avail.
>
>
>
> I had time to prepare and spent quality time with him every year.  However,
> nothing can prepare you for the empty void from your hero all your life..  I
> will travel in December when my son has sufficient immune system to travel.
>
>
>
> Thank you for your prayers and please continue to pray for mum.
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From brown.deanna at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 12 09:40:06 2009
From: brown.deanna at yahoo.com (Deanna Brown)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:40:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [ClassOf80] Norman
Message-ID: <315085.12737.qm@web45603.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Norman,
?
So sorry to hear of your loss. What a blessing it is that you had such a relationship with?your dad?that you will miss him being in your life. This is evidence that he has contributed so much to who you are as a person that he will never really be absent from you. And now you have the blessed opportunity to pass on all that was good about him to your own son. Praying for you, and especially your mom. Deanna


      
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From jgarmes at msn.com  Wed Aug 12 10:53:29 2009
From: jgarmes at msn.com (John Armes)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 10:53:29 -0600
Subject: [ClassOf80] My late beloved father
In-Reply-To: <111868.87768.qm@web112420.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <111868.87768.qm@web112420.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP498BDB8200A0AB42624414A0040@phx.gbl>

POLE SANA Norman and family.  Praying for you all....John and Gini



From heffling at whidbey.com  Wed Aug 12 13:59:40 2009
From: heffling at whidbey.com (Hefflingers)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 12:59:40 -0700
Subject: [ClassOf80] ClassOf80 Digest, Vol 67, Issue 3
References: <mailman.9.1250100003.7606.classof80@rvaalumni.org>
Message-ID: <001a01ca1b87$6d913c10$0202a8c0@Desktophp>

Norman,

I'm so sorry to hear of your dad's passing and that he didn't get to meet 
his newest grandson.  You and yours have lost a beloved father, and Kenya 
has lost a good man. It is so hard to say good-bye or so long, but I can 
attest that God gives the strength, and tho' we never stop missing them and 
loving them and being grateful for all that they've built into our lives, 
time does heal the pain of losing them. May you and all your family feel 
God's presence w/ you ; holding and comforting you in the days ahead.

w/ sympathy and prayers,
Grace



From maverick08 at earthlink.net  Wed Aug 12 16:00:25 2009
From: maverick08 at earthlink.net (Heidi Broward)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:00:25 -0700
Subject: [ClassOf80] ClassOf80 Digest, Vol 67, Issue 3
In-Reply-To: <mailman.9.1250100003.7606.classof80@rvaalumni.org>
References: <mailman.9.1250100003.7606.classof80@rvaalumni.org>
Message-ID: <000301ca1b98$4ce6bf10$e6b43d30$@net>

A big hug to you Norman!
Heidi

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   2. Re: My late beloved father (juliehudak at telusplanet.net)
   3. Re: My late beloved father (Tory Walker)
   4. Re: My late beloved father (Dawn Fehr)
   5. Norman (Deanna Brown)
   6. Re: My late beloved father (John Armes)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 21:34:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: Stormin' Norman <energynorm at yahoo.com>
Subject: [ClassOf80] My late beloved father
To: RVA class of '80 <classof80 at rvaalumni.org>
Message-ID: <111868.87768.qm at web112420.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"



?
My father passed away on Friday the 7th and the funeral will be Friday the
14th.
?
A.H. Muraya, the former deputy director of Education for Kenya was 83.
He is survived by mum and all 6 offspring, who all provided at least one
grand child.? In addition, he?had?4 great grand children.
?
He has been weak since his stroke 2 years ago.? In the last 6 months, he
battled throat cancer courageously.? He refused treatment stating both his
parents never woke up from their cancer operation?at a much younger age.? At
the last 3 weeks we attempted?ICU and radiation?therapy to no avail.? 
?
I had time to prepare and spent quality time with him every year.? However,
nothing can prepare you for the empty void?from?your hero all your life..? I
will travel in December when my son has sufficient immune system to travel.
?
Thank you for your prayers and please continue to pray for mum.
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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:18:34 -0500
From: Tory Walker <tory at trwengineering.com>
Subject: Re: [ClassOf80] My late beloved father
To: RVA class of '80 <classof80 at rvaalumni.org>
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My prayers are with you and your family, my friend.
Tory

From: Stormin' Norman [mailto:energynorm at yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 9:34 PM
To: RVA class of '80
Subject: [ClassOf80] My late beloved father



My father passed away on Friday the 7th and the funeral will be Friday the
14th.

A.H. Muraya, the former deputy director of Education for Kenya was 83.
He is survived by mum and all 6 offspring, who all provided at least one
grand child.  In addition, he had 4 great grand children.

He has been weak since his stroke 2 years ago.  In the last 6 months, he
battled throat cancer courageously.  He refused treatment stating both his
parents never woke up from their cancer operation at a much younger age.  At
the last 3 weeks we attempted ICU and radiation therapy to no avail.

I had time to prepare and spent quality time with him every year.  However,
nothing can prepare you for the empty void from your hero all your life..  I
will travel in December when my son has sufficient immune system to travel.

Thank you for your prayers and please continue to pray for mum.



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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:20:30 -0700
From: Dawn Fehr <bcsmithereens at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [ClassOf80] My late beloved father
To: "RVA class of '80" <classof80 at rvaalumni.org>
Message-ID:
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Norman,

Thinking of you and your family at this tender time in your lives.

Dawn

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 6:18 AM, Tory Walker <tory at trwengineering.com>wrote:

>  My prayers are with you and your family, my friend.
>
> Tory
>
>
>
> *From:* Stormin' Norman [mailto:energynorm at yahoo.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 11, 2009 9:34 PM
> *To:* RVA class of '80
> *Subject:* [ClassOf80] My late beloved father
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> My father passed away on Friday the 7th and the funeral will be Friday the
> 14th.
>
>
>
> A.H. Muraya, the former deputy director of Education for Kenya was 83.
>
> He is survived by mum and all 6 offspring, who all provided at least one
> grand child.  In addition, he had 4 great grand children.
>
>
>
> He has been weak since his stroke 2 years ago.  In the last 6 months, he
> battled throat cancer courageously.  He refused treatment stating both his
> parents never woke up from their cancer operation at a much younger age.
At
> the last 3 weeks we attempted ICU and radiation therapy to no avail.
>
>
>
> I had time to prepare and spent quality time with him every year.
However,
> nothing can prepare you for the empty void from your hero all your life..
I
> will travel in December when my son has sufficient immune system to
travel.
>
>
>
> Thank you for your prayers and please continue to pray for mum.
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> ClassOf80 mailing list
> ClassOf80 at rvaalumni.org
> http://www.rvaalumni.org/mailman/listinfo/classof80
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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:40:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: Deanna Brown <brown.deanna at yahoo.com>
Subject: [ClassOf80] Norman
To: RVA <classof80 at rvaalumni.org>
Message-ID: <315085.12737.qm at web45603.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Norman,
?
So sorry to hear of your loss. What a blessing it is that you had such a
relationship with?your dad?that you will miss him being in your life. This
is evidence that he has contributed so much to who you are as a person that
he will never really be absent from you. And now you have the blessed
opportunity to pass on all that was good about him to your own son. Praying
for you, and especially your mom. Deanna


      
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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 10:53:29 -0600
From: John Armes <jgarmes at msn.com>
Subject: Re: [ClassOf80] My late beloved father
To: RVA class of '80 <classof80 at rvaalumni.org>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP498BDB8200A0AB42624414A0040 at phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed

POLE SANA Norman and family.  Praying for you all....John and Gini




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From lindholmsi at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 12 19:29:15 2009
From: lindholmsi at yahoo.com (JULIE LINDHOLM)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:29:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [ClassOf80] My late beloved father
In-Reply-To: <111868.87768.qm@web112420.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <111868.87768.qm@web112420.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <252253.76037.qm@web34704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Our prayers are with you and family, Norman.

your dad?always will be in your thoughts and helping you, and expanding your vision and courage.?
WOW-they are some big shoes to follow.

it must be a great comfort for him to?graduate having made?such?great contributions to the past professionally, and to the future generations. 

blessings? 
- Julie


?



________________________________
From: Stormin' Norman <energynorm at yahoo.com>
To: RVA class of '80 <classof80 at rvaalumni.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 9:34:14 PM
Subject: [ClassOf80] My late beloved father





My father passed away on Friday the 7th and the funeral will be Friday the 14th.

A.H. Muraya, the former deputy director of Education for Kenya was 83.
He is survived by mum and all 6 offspring, who all provided at least one grand child.? In addition, he?had?4 great grand children.

He has been weak since his stroke 2 years ago.? In the last 6 months, he battled throat cancer courageously.? He refused treatment stating both his parents never woke up from their cancer operation?at a much younger age.? At the last 3 weeks we attempted?ICU and radiation?therapy to no avail.? 

I had time to prepare and spent quality time with him every year.? However, nothing can prepare you for the empty void?from?your hero all your life..? I will travel in December when my son has sufficient immune system to travel.

Thank you for your prayers and please continue to pray for mum.


      
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From gijoe1lt at hotmail.com  Wed Aug 12 21:15:01 2009
From: gijoe1lt at hotmail.com (Stephen FH)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 22:15:01 -0500
Subject: [ClassOf80] ClassOf80 Digest, Vol 67, Issue 3
In-Reply-To: <mailman.9.1250100003.7606.classof80@rvaalumni.org>
References: <mailman.9.1250100003.7606.classof80@rvaalumni.org>
Message-ID: <SNT101-W18DB206CFD539B3404A00E88050@phx.gbl>



Norman. Sorry to hear about your dad.. Praying for you. steve


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From energynorm at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 13 10:14:43 2009
From: energynorm at yahoo.com (Stormin' Norman)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 09:14:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [ClassOf80] My late beloved father
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP498BDB8200A0AB42624414A0040@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <549659.28726.qm@web112410.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Asante warafiki.
How are your parents?? Look fwd to seeing you next Aug
?
Norm & Rosemary

--- On Wed, 8/12/09, John Armes <jgarmes at msn.com> wrote:


From: John Armes <jgarmes at msn.com>
Subject: Re: [ClassOf80] My late beloved father
To: "RVA class of '80" <classof80 at rvaalumni.org>
Date: Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 11:53 AM


POLE SANA Norman and family.? Praying for you all....John and Gini


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From jennyishome at austin.rr.com  Thu Aug 13 12:19:00 2009
From: jennyishome at austin.rr.com (Jenny Holloway)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:19:00 -0500
Subject: [ClassOf80] Norman
In-Reply-To: <mailman.5.1250186403.18686.classof80@rvaalumni.org>
References: <mailman.5.1250186403.18686.classof80@rvaalumni.org>
Message-ID: <752167B1E83F43A8AE3B056B513719C2@gijenn34PC>

Norman, big hugs and my prayers are with you and your family. I know you 
will miss him till you see him again one day! What a legacy he left behind 
in you!!!!! Love and prayers!
Jenny
Jenny and Steve Holloway

http://www.mymangosteen.com/distributors/jholloway/

I am a princess... my Father is the King of Kings!

Stop telling God how big your storm is.......instead
tell your storm HOW BIG YOUR GOD IS!!!!!!!!!! 



From sdwilliams714 at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 13 12:19:41 2009
From: sdwilliams714 at yahoo.com (Stephen Williams)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 11:19:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [ClassOf80] ClassOf80 Digest, Vol 67, Issue 4
In-Reply-To: <mailman.5.1250186403.18686.classof80@rvaalumni.org>
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My thots and prayers are with you Norman....Want to see this new son of yours sometime soon...I'll let you know when I get to Austin.
Steve W.

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Subject: ClassOf80 Digest, Vol 67, Issue 4
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Date: Thursday, August 13, 2009, 1:00 PM


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???2. Re: ClassOf80 Digest, Vol 67, Issue 3 (Heidi Broward)
???3. Re: My late beloved father (JULIE LINDHOLM)
???4. Re: ClassOf80 Digest, Vol 67, Issue 3 (Stephen FH)
???5. Re: My late beloved father (Stormin' Norman)


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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 12:59:40 -0700
From: "Hefflingers" <heffling at whidbey.com>
Subject: Re: [ClassOf80] ClassOf80 Digest, Vol 67, Issue 3
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Norman,

I'm so sorry to hear of your dad's passing and that he didn't get to meet 
his newest grandson.? You and yours have lost a beloved father, and Kenya 
has lost a good man. It is so hard to say good-bye or so long, but I can 
attest that God gives the strength, and tho' we never stop missing them and 
loving them and being grateful for all that they've built into our lives, 
time does heal the pain of losing them. May you and all your family feel 
God's presence w/ you ; holding and comforting you in the days ahead.

w/ sympathy and prayers,
Grace




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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:00:25 -0700
From: "Heidi Broward" <maverick08 at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [ClassOf80] ClassOf80 Digest, Vol 67, Issue 3
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A big hug to you Norman!
Heidi

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???4. Re: My late beloved father (Dawn Fehr)
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Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 21:34:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: Stormin' Norman <energynorm at yahoo.com>
Subject: [ClassOf80] My late beloved father
To: RVA class of '80 <classof80 at rvaalumni.org>
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?
My father passed away on Friday the 7th and the funeral will be Friday the
14th.
?
A.H. Muraya, the former deputy director of Education for Kenya was 83.
He is survived by mum and all 6 offspring, who all provided at least one
grand child.? In addition, he?had?4 great grand children.
?
He has been weak since his stroke 2 years ago.? In the last 6 months, he
battled throat cancer courageously.? He refused treatment stating both his
parents never woke up from their cancer operation?at a much younger age.? At
the last 3 weeks we attempted?ICU and radiation?therapy to no avail.? 
?
I had time to prepare and spent quality time with him every year.? However,
nothing can prepare you for the empty void?from?your hero all your life..? I
will travel in December when my son has sufficient immune system to travel.
?
Thank you for your prayers and please continue to pray for mum.
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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:18:34 -0500
From: Tory Walker <tory at trwengineering.com>
Subject: Re: [ClassOf80] My late beloved father
To: RVA class of '80 <classof80 at rvaalumni.org>
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My prayers are with you and your family, my friend.
Tory

From: Stormin' Norman [mailto:energynorm at yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 9:34 PM
To: RVA class of '80
Subject: [ClassOf80] My late beloved father



My father passed away on Friday the 7th and the funeral will be Friday the
14th.

A.H. Muraya, the former deputy director of Education for Kenya was 83.
He is survived by mum and all 6 offspring, who all provided at least one
grand child.? In addition, he had 4 great grand children.

He has been weak since his stroke 2 years ago.? In the last 6 months, he
battled throat cancer courageously.? He refused treatment stating both his
parents never woke up from their cancer operation at a much younger age.? At
the last 3 weeks we attempted ICU and radiation therapy to no avail.

I had time to prepare and spent quality time with him every year.? However,
nothing can prepare you for the empty void from your hero all your life..? I
will travel in December when my son has sufficient immune system to travel.

Thank you for your prayers and please continue to pray for mum.



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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:20:30 -0700
From: Dawn Fehr <bcsmithereens at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [ClassOf80] My late beloved father
To: "RVA class of '80" <classof80 at rvaalumni.org>
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Norman,

Thinking of you and your family at this tender time in your lives.

Dawn

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 6:18 AM, Tory Walker <tory at trwengineering.com>wrote:

>? My prayers are with you and your family, my friend.
>
> Tory
>
>
>
> *From:* Stormin' Norman [mailto:energynorm at yahoo.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 11, 2009 9:34 PM
> *To:* RVA class of '80
> *Subject:* [ClassOf80] My late beloved father
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> My father passed away on Friday the 7th and the funeral will be Friday the
> 14th.
>
>
>
> A.H. Muraya, the former deputy director of Education for Kenya was 83.
>
> He is survived by mum and all 6 offspring, who all provided at least one
> grand child.? In addition, he had 4 great grand children.
>
>
>
> He has been weak since his stroke 2 years ago.? In the last 6 months, he
> battled throat cancer courageously.? He refused treatment stating both his
> parents never woke up from their cancer operation at a much younger age.
At
> the last 3 weeks we attempted ICU and radiation therapy to no avail.
>
>
>
> I had time to prepare and spent quality time with him every year.
However,
> nothing can prepare you for the empty void from your hero all your life..
I
> will travel in December when my son has sufficient immune system to
travel.
>
>
>
> Thank you for your prayers and please continue to pray for mum.
>
>
>
>
>
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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:40:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: Deanna Brown <brown.deanna at yahoo.com>
Subject: [ClassOf80] Norman
To: RVA <classof80 at rvaalumni.org>
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Norman,
?
So sorry to hear of your loss. What a blessing it is that you had such a
relationship with?your dad?that you will miss him being in your life. This
is evidence that he has contributed so much to who you are as a person that
he will never really be absent from you. And now you have the blessed
opportunity to pass on all that was good about him to your own son. Praying
for you, and especially your mom. Deanna


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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 10:53:29 -0600
From: John Armes <jgarmes at msn.com>
Subject: Re: [ClassOf80] My late beloved father
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POLE SANA Norman and family.? Praying for you all....John and Gini




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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:29:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: JULIE LINDHOLM <lindholmsi at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [ClassOf80] My late beloved father
To: RVA class of '80 <classof80 at rvaalumni.org>
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Our prayers are with you and family, Norman.

your dad?always will be in your thoughts and helping you, and expanding your vision and courage.?
WOW-they are some big shoes to follow.

it must be a great comfort for him to?graduate having made?such?great contributions to the past professionally, and to the future generations. 

blessings? 
- Julie


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From: Stormin' Norman <energynorm at yahoo.com>
To: RVA class of '80 <classof80 at rvaalumni.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 9:34:14 PM
Subject: [ClassOf80] My late beloved father





My father passed away on Friday the 7th and the funeral will be Friday the 14th.

A.H. Muraya, the former deputy director of Education for Kenya was 83.
He is survived by mum and all 6 offspring, who all provided at least one grand child.? In addition, he?had?4 great grand children.

He has been weak since his stroke 2 years ago.? In the last 6 months, he battled throat cancer courageously.? He refused treatment stating both his parents never woke up from their cancer operation?at a much younger age.? At the last 3 weeks we attempted?ICU and radiation?therapy to no avail.? 

I had time to prepare and spent quality time with him every year.? However, nothing can prepare you for the empty void?from?your hero all your life..? I will travel in December when my son has sufficient immune system to travel.

Thank you for your prayers and please continue to pray for mum.


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Norman. Sorry to hear about your dad.. Praying for you. steve


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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 09:14:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: Stormin' Norman <energynorm at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [ClassOf80] My late beloved father
To: RVA class of '80 <classof80 at rvaalumni.org>
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Asante warafiki.
How are your parents?? Look fwd to seeing you next Aug
?
Norm & Rosemary

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From: John Armes <jgarmes at msn.com>
Subject: Re: [ClassOf80] My late beloved father
To: "RVA class of '80" <classof80 at rvaalumni.org>
Date: Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 11:53 AM


POLE SANA Norman and family.? Praying for you all....John and Gini


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I'm sorry for your loss Norman. I am praying for you and your family.

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From: lindholmsi at yahoo.com (JULIE LINDHOLM)
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 08:47:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [ClassOf80] healthcare
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I finally gave up listening to the ranting on TV and read the reform bill.?? 
well, i scanned it?and laughed out loud.
?because 
first, nothing makes obama smarter than any of you guys -???so? read? it...? at least?LOOK at it !?? 

it's easy to google,?enter something like?? "healthcare reform bill 2009".

first, if any politicians say it's too long, or too difficult to read, they are not?doing their jobs.

1000 pages is not even impressive when you actually see it - the print is gigantic and the words are not long.

much of it is expected necessary quality-control, standards of care, no-fraud, blah blah which exists for the rest of healthcare already. 

the cost IS gazillions of dollars.? 
but i will not be surprised if it saves in the long run because we're now providing disease-care instead of health care,? which is phenomenally and irrationally expensive.???
and we pay for the un- and under-insured healthcare in such a bassackwards way, it's not cheap at all,?nor is it good quality care in that context.? 

the parts i really like in it are 

all americans get SOMETHING as a safety-net option?for healthcare.

expand public health services - train more midlevel providers like PA's / midwives and match funds for their work in underserved communities.? (this resurrects and grows existing plans in PHS/VA type systems)

prevention is big in the bill.? our country should be much healthier than it is, but we eat so bad.?? There is a lot about nutrition education, improving FDA food labeling,? school nutrition, and epidemiology.? 

the part that was dropped about family & patient end-of-life discussion with MD is really critical in real life.
docs?often neglect to do this this?(and should not need to bill extra to do it.? it is a responsibility inherent in good doctoring.? it's just?emotionally demanding, and takes time.??normally the doc needs to meet with extended family for?involved and?repeated discussions about "granny and the vent")
Supporting a beating heart with vents/drips/and heroic nursing is so expensive (and?can be?inhumane) and all of us at all ages need to consider how far we want technology to prolong death.?? by the way it's already a requirement for all hospitals receiving medicaid to offer all inpatients a "living will" or end-of-life options, including young and healthy patients. 

i'm also glad the AMA is finally supportive of reform, and i am hoping it will pass, but with enough flexibility for improvement, and hoping that some of the key financial gridlocks (like drug company fortunes) can be shifted enough to allow progress.? 

peace out? -? Julie



      
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From maverick08 at earthlink.net  Sun Aug 16 14:32:10 2009
From: maverick08 at earthlink.net (Heidi Broward)
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 13:32:10 -0700
Subject: [ClassOf80] Health Care Reform
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1250445602.6814.classof80@rvaalumni.org>
References: <mailman.1.1250445602.6814.classof80@rvaalumni.org>
Message-ID: <003201ca1eb0$a2165390$e642fab0$@net>

Jules, thanks for reading it for me.  Put in your words, it doesn't sound
too bad!  Before Northwest merged with Delta this year, we had a fantastic
retirement medical benefit - only $400 a month to keep the excellent medical
plan we currently have - now it will cost us $1600!!!!!!!!  How on earth can
we afford that??  So I for one, although still fearful a bit, in a way hope
it does pass - for selfish reasons!

Love,
Heidi

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Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 08:47:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: JULIE LINDHOLM <lindholmsi at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [ClassOf80] healthcare
To: RVA class of '80 <classof80 at rvaalumni.org>
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I finally gave up listening to the ranting on TV and read the reform bill.??

well, i scanned it?and laughed out loud.
?because 
first, nothing makes obama smarter than any of you guys -???so? read? it...?
at least?LOOK at it !?? 

it's easy to google,?enter something like?? "healthcare reform bill 2009".

first, if any politicians say it's too long, or too difficult to read, they
are not?doing their jobs.

1000 pages is not even impressive when you actually see it - the print is
gigantic and the words are not long.

much of it is expected necessary quality-control, standards of care,
no-fraud, blah blah which exists for the rest of healthcare already. 

the cost IS gazillions of dollars.? 
but i will not be surprised if it saves in the long run because we're now
providing disease-care instead of health care,? which is phenomenally and
irrationally expensive.???
and we pay for the un- and under-insured healthcare in such a bassackwards
way, it's not cheap at all,?nor is it good quality care in that context.? 

the parts i really like in it are 

all americans get SOMETHING as a safety-net option?for healthcare.

expand public health services - train more midlevel providers like PA's /
midwives and match funds for their work in underserved communities.? (this
resurrects and grows existing plans in PHS/VA type systems)

prevention is big in the bill.? our country should be much healthier than it
is, but we eat so bad.?? There is a lot about nutrition education, improving
FDA food labeling,? school nutrition, and epidemiology.? 

the part that was dropped about family & patient end-of-life discussion with
MD is really critical in real life.
docs?often neglect to do this this?(and should not need to bill extra to do
it.? it is a responsibility inherent in good doctoring.? it's
just?emotionally demanding, and takes time.??normally the doc needs to meet
with extended family for?involved and?repeated discussions about "granny and
the vent")
Supporting a beating heart with vents/drips/and heroic nursing is so
expensive (and?can be?inhumane) and all of us at all ages need to consider
how far we want technology to prolong death.?? by the way it's already a
requirement for all hospitals receiving medicaid to offer all inpatients a
"living will" or end-of-life options, including young and healthy patients. 

i'm also glad the AMA is finally supportive of reform, and i am hoping it
will pass, but with enough flexibility for improvement, and hoping that some
of the key financial gridlocks (like drug company fortunes) can be shifted
enough to allow progress.? 

peace out? -? Julie



      
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From jambosana at comcast.net  Sun Aug 16 17:59:20 2009
From: jambosana at comcast.net (jambosana at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 23:59:20 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [ClassOf80] healthcare
In-Reply-To: <751039.13669.qm@web34708.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1986272819.632521250467160482.JavaMail.root@sz0031a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Thank you, Julie. We need people like you--people who know what they are talking about--to tell it like it is. I, and I suspect a lot of other people, am getting very tired of the ranting and raving about health care politics. It's time we did something about it. 
Art 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "JULIE LINDHOLM" <lindholmsi at yahoo.com> 
To: "RVA class of '80" <classof80 at rvaalumni.org> 
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 8:47:52 AM GMT -07:00 U.S. Mountain Time (Arizona) 
Subject: Re: [ClassOf80] healthcare 



I finally gave up listening to the ranting on TV and read the reform bill. 
well, i scanned it and laughed out loud. 
because 
first, nothing makes obama smarter than any of you guys - so read it... at least LOOK at it ! 

it's easy to google, enter something like "healthcare reform bill 2009". 

first, if any politicians say it's too long, or too difficult to read, they are not doing their jobs. 

1000 pages is not even impressive when you actually see it - the print is gigantic and the words are not long. 

much of it is expected necessary quality-control, standards of care, no-fraud, blah blah which exists for the rest of healthcare already. 

the cost IS gazillions of dollars. 
but i will not be surprised if it saves in the long run because we're now providing disease-care instead of health care, which is phenomenally and irrationally expensive. 
and we pay for the un- and under-insured healthcare in such a bassackwards way, it's not cheap at all, nor is it good quality care in that context. 

the parts i really like in it are 

all americans get SOMETHING as a safety-net option for healthcare. 

expand public health services - train more midlevel providers like PA's / midwives and match funds for their work in underserved communities. (this resurrects and grows existing plans in PHS/VA type systems) 

prevention is big in the bill. our country should be much healthier than it is, but we eat so bad. There is a lot about nutrition education, improving FDA food labeling, school nutrition, and epidemiology. 

the part that was dropped about family & patient end-of-life discussion with MD is really critical in real life. 
docs often neglect to do this this (and should not need to bill extra to do it. it is a responsibility inherent in good doctoring. it's just emotionally demanding, and takes time. normally the doc needs to meet with extended family for involved and repeated discussions about "granny and the vent") 
Supporting a beating heart with vents/drips/and heroic nursing is so expensive (and can be inhumane) and all of us at all ages need to consider how far we want technology to prolong death. by the way it's already a requirement for all hospitals receiving medicaid to offer all inpatients a "living will" or end-of-life options, including young and healthy patients. 

i'm also glad the AMA is finally supportive of reform, and i am hoping it will pass, but with enough flexibility for improvement, and hoping that some of the key financial gridlocks (like drug company fortunes) can be shifted enough to allow progress. 

peace out - Julie 


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From: lbainbridge at avmi.org (Bainbridge, Lynda)
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 19:20:25 -0500
Subject: [ClassOf80] Healthcare
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Thank you Julie for being a voice of reason out there  - people have
been "spouting off" so much trash about stuff they know nothing about
and it is getting really old to listen to. I'm glad that someone has
taken the time to look through it and explain it in terms that make
sense.

 

You are right on so many counts.

 

________________________________

Thank you, Julie.  We need people like you--people who know what they
are talking about--to tell it like it is.  I, and I suspect a lot of
other people, am getting very tired of the ranting and raving about
health care politics.  It's time we did something about it.
Art
----- Original Message -----
From: "JULIE LINDHOLM" <lindholmsi at yahoo.com>



I finally gave up listening to the ranting on TV and read the reform
bill.   

well, i scanned it and laughed out loud.
 because 

first, nothing makes obama smarter than any of you guys -   so  read
it...  at least LOOK at it !   

 

it's easy to google, enter something like   "healthcare reform bill
2009".

 

first, if any politicians say it's too long, or too difficult to read,
they are not doing their jobs.

 

1000 pages is not even impressive when you actually see it - the print
is gigantic and the words are not long.

 

much of it is expected necessary quality-control, standards of care,
no-fraud, blah blah which exists for the rest of healthcare already. 

 

the cost IS gazillions of dollars.  

but i will not be surprised if it saves in the long run because we're
now providing disease-care instead of health care,  which is
phenomenally and irrationally expensive.   

and we pay for the un- and under-insured healthcare in such a
bassackwards way, it's not cheap at all, nor is it good quality care in
that context.  

 

the parts i really like in it are 

 

all americans get SOMETHING as a safety-net option for healthcare.

 

expand public health services - train more midlevel providers like PA's
/ midwives and match funds for their work in underserved communities.
(this resurrects and grows existing plans in PHS/VA type systems)

 

prevention is big in the bill.  our country should be much healthier
than it is, but we eat so bad.   There is a lot about nutrition
education, improving FDA food labeling,  school nutrition, and
epidemiology.  

 

the part that was dropped about family & patient end-of-life discussion
with MD is really critical in real life.

docs often neglect to do this this (and should not need to bill extra to
do it.  it is a responsibility inherent in good doctoring.  it's just
emotionally demanding, and takes time.  normally the doc needs to meet
with extended family for involved and repeated discussions about "granny
and the vent")

Supporting a beating heart with vents/drips/and heroic nursing is so
expensive (and can be inhumane) and all of us at all ages need to
consider how far we want technology to prolong death.   by the way it's
already a requirement for all hospitals receiving medicaid to offer all
inpatients a "living will" or end-of-life options, including young and
healthy patients. 

 

i'm also glad the AMA is finally supportive of reform, and i am hoping
it will pass, but with enough flexibility for improvement, and hoping
that some of the key financial gridlocks (like drug company fortunes)
can be shifted enough to allow progress.  

 

peace out  -  Julie

 






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From: nancymaillefer at yahoo.com (Nancy Maillefer)
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 14:37:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [ClassOf80] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <305246.34146.qm@web34701.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <714382.75428.qm@web45601.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
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Hello,
?
Thanks, Julie, for checking....Yes, I disappeared into oblivion for the last 3 months or more. Sorry - I haven't really written anyone so don't feel abandoned.? 
?
The job at the church has been very stressful and I was not treated very respectfully there?yet worked 8-9 hours nonstop a day. It's been very hard to see how things are handled on the inside,?I must say, and I really struggled to see so much money put into 20+ tv's and other fancy technology but very little time in people. It?was a very unconventional church with no denomination, membership, eldership, policies, bylaws, nothing..... just a family business with 3 pastors related.
?
At the end of July, the cleaning lady who was my only friend here and who also struggled with the same issues, told me that she wasn't giving her tithe to the church this month because of the way they were spending money and I said I wasn't either. She told this to someone else who went and told the pastor. July 30th, he fired me (but not the cleaning lady). His main line every Sunday is that you should give your 10% to the church and everything will be fine! (Guess that was my first clue....)
?
It's good as the stress was so high and my father and sister have been wanting me to leave since Easter. Every day was some incident that was not good. However, I've since discovered that churches/nonprofits don't have to pay unemployment so I'm on the street again looking for work! :(? 
?
In that same week, I suddenly discovered a lump on my neck and was having severe dizziness with a blocked ear as well.?I think it's due to the stress I've been under. I went to a specialist?and discovered?I had a cyst larger than my thyroid. I had a biopsy last Thurs. and am waiting for results.
?
So, I hope you enjoyed the quiet. I will have time to answer emails now and live again. If you think of me, say a prayer please - I'm struggling with discouragement and about done with church. If it hadn't been for the sweet construction workers, I would have never made it this far. I've lived thru 6 mos. of construction all around my desk and my new desk/office was ready the day I got fired. :(
?
I hope you are all doing better in your corner of the woods. Please know I have not forgotten you!! 
?? Nancy Maillefer 




________________________________
From: JULIE LINDHOLM <lindholmsi at yahoo.com>
To: RVA class of '80 <classof80 at rvaalumni.org>
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 9:17:43 AM
Subject: Re: [ClassOf80] (no subject)


I'M smiling here deanna...???? 

i know the whole rez laughs at my battered?baby truck.??? but it always starts!! (also page is a very casual town).

a friend of mine interviewed for a small practice in albuquerque, and the guys told her they all drive bmw's for their image... AND that if she took the job with them she would need to buy a beamer too...??so bizarre.
she took a different job.

hope your ride can be repaired grace. 

PS YOU GUYS...? i?heard thru missionaries that this?economy has?hurt ethiopia's international flower market.??? HUH???? 
i guess it is true.?? i'm still trying to imagine that...


hey nancy you doing OK out there??? 

are you canadians getting warm weather YET?? 

take care all -?? julie

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From: heffling at whidbey.com (Hefflingers)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 19:46:02 -0700
Subject: [ClassOf80] ClassOf80 Digest, Vol 67, Issue 9
References: <mailman.5.1251223203.30456.classof80@rvaalumni.org>
Message-ID: <000a01ca25f7$5a0a3a50$0202a8c0@Desktophp>

Nancy,
So sorry to hear that life continues to be so hard for you!!  The medical 
field ( if you have any inclination) can always use people. Around here you 
can get a medical assistant certification in 8 months and a nurse's aid 
certification in one quarter. Of course, school takes money, but if you 
could get a good loan, you would probably have no trouble at all getting a 
job. I just got my CNA ( certified nurse's aid) and am working for an agency 
where I have one client at a time in their own home. It really works for me 
and hasn't been stressful except for making sure I stay in policies which 
sometimes gets tricky, but I'm learning and thankfully, my boss is gracious 
and patient. Just a thought. Or libraries often hire w/o previous 
experience. Of course, none of these options are top $, but they're good 
reliable jobs, and I'm finding mine to be ministry as well. You could even 
do one of these part-time and then open your own counseling service 
part-time until you build up cash flow and clientele to support yourself 
full-time w/ counseling. I know you probably just need to "catch your 
breath" right now, but when you're back to considering options...
In the meantime, I'll keep you in my prayers as regularly as I can.
Hang in there.
Love,
Grace
----- Original Message ----- 
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To: <classof80 at rvaalumni.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 11:00 AM
Subject: ClassOf80 Digest, Vol 67, Issue 9


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> Hello,
> ?
> Thanks, Julie, for checking....Yes, I disappeared into oblivion for the 
> last 3 months or more. Sorry - I haven't really written anyone so don't 
> feel abandoned.?
> ?
> The job at the church has been very stressful and I was not treated very 
> respectfully there?yet worked 8-9 hours nonstop a day. It's been very hard 
> to see how things are handled on the inside,?I must say, and I really 
> struggled to see so much money put into 20+ tv's and other fancy 
> technology but very little time in people. It?was a very unconventional 
> church with no denomination, membership, eldership, policies, bylaws, 
> nothing..... just a family business with 3 pastors related.
> ?
> At the end of July, the cleaning lady who was my only friend here and who 
> also struggled with the same issues, told me that she wasn't giving her 
> tithe to the church this month because of the way they were spending money 
> and I said I wasn't either. She told this to someone else who went and 
> told the pastor. July 30th, he fired me (but not the cleaning lady). His 
> main line every Sunday is that you should give your 10% to the church and 
> everything will be fine! (Guess that was my first clue....)
> ?
> It's good as the stress was so high and my father and sister have been 
> wanting me to leave since Easter. Every day was some incident that was not 
> good. However, I've since discovered that churches/nonprofits don't have 
> to pay unemployment so I'm on the street again looking for work! :(?
> ?
> In that same week, I suddenly discovered a lump on my neck and was having 
> severe dizziness with a blocked ear as well.?I think it's due to the 
> stress I've been under. I went to a specialist?and discovered?I had a cyst 
> larger than my thyroid. I had a biopsy last Thurs. and am waiting for 
> results.
> ?
> So, I hope you enjoyed the quiet. I will have time to answer emails now 
> and live again. If you think of me, say a prayer please - I'm struggling 
> with discouragement and about done with church. If it hadn't been for the 
> sweet construction workers, I would have never made it this far. I've 
> lived thru 6 mos. of construction all around my desk and my new 
> desk/office was ready the day I got fired. :(
> ?
> I hope you are all doing better in your corner of the woods. Please know I 
> have not forgotten you!!
> ?? Nancy Maillefer
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: JULIE LINDHOLM <lindholmsi at yahoo.com>
> To: RVA class of '80 <classof80 at rvaalumni.org>
> Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 9:17:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [ClassOf80] (no subject)
>
>
> I'M smiling here deanna...????
>
> i know the whole rez laughs at my battered?baby truck.??? but it always 
> starts!! (also page is a very casual town).
>
> a friend of mine interviewed for a small practice in albuquerque, and the 
> guys told her they all drive bmw's for their image... AND that if she took 
> the job with them she would need to buy a beamer too...??so bizarre.
> she took a different job.
>
> hope your ride can be repaired grace.
>
> PS YOU GUYS...? i?heard thru missionaries that this?economy has?hurt 
> ethiopia's international flower market.??? HUH????
> i guess it is true.?? i'm still trying to imagine that...
>
>
> hey nancy you doing OK out there???
>
> are you canadians getting warm weather YET??
>
> take care all -?? julie
>
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From lindholmsi at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 26 07:43:27 2009
From: lindholmsi at yahoo.com (JULIE LINDHOLM)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 06:43:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [ClassOf80] ClassOf80 Digest, Vol 67, Issue 9
In-Reply-To: <000a01ca25f7$5a0a3a50$0202a8c0@Desktophp>
References: <mailman.5.1251223203.30456.classof80@rvaalumni.org>
	<000a01ca25f7$5a0a3a50$0202a8c0@Desktophp>
Message-ID: <21427.3032.qm@web112017.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

HI NANCY,?? GRACE,?? i think about your e-mails more than i write.?? 

Grace great job on your CNA and your steady work!? 
Yes - there is always need for healthcare providers.

Nancy I agree it's a time for creative thinking under pressure.? 

I have always sought professional counselling (I know you're a trained counsellor yourself)?for?more perspective,?when life?seems too difficult?-? because it's actually a pivotal moment for change, if you can see the way through.?? 
Looking back, the most rapid, profound, and enduring growth I have experienced has occurred during stress.?? 

I know i have asked you before but again...? are you letting us?be a sounding board, or are you seeking our voice, or both??? 

and i've?said before but again...? 
Job's friends had all kinds of?opinions and God's answer to Job was "where were you back WHEN..."? 
I?have found deep comfort in ancient wisdom writings because it is another perspective?less easily found in current sources.

i just tell patients "life is not fair. but it's precious.? and? life is a training ground, so learn all you can" 
(you are in the accelerated class!)

keep letting us know how you are, and thank you?for the update!? -? Julie




?



________________________________
From: Hefflingers <heffling at whidbey.com>
To: classof80 at rvaalumni.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 7:46:02 PM
Subject: Re: [ClassOf80] ClassOf80 Digest, Vol 67, Issue 9

Nancy,
So sorry to hear that life continues to be so hard for you!!? The medical 
field ( if you have any inclination) can always use people. Around here you 
can get a medical assistant certification in 8 months and a nurse's aid 
certification in one quarter. Of course, school takes money, but if you 
could get a good loan, you would probably have no trouble at all getting a 
job. I just got my CNA ( certified nurse's aid) and am working for an agency 
where I have one client at a time in their own home. It really works for me 
and hasn't been stressful except for making sure I stay in policies which 
sometimes gets tricky, but I'm learning and thankfully, my boss is gracious 
and patient. Just a thought. Or libraries often hire w/o previous 
experience. Of course, none of these options are top $, but they're good 
reliable jobs, and I'm finding mine to be ministry as well. You could even 
do one of these part-time and then open your own counseling service 
part-time until you build up cash flow and clientele to support yourself 
full-time w/ counseling. I know you probably just need to "catch your 
breath" right now, but when you're back to considering options...
In the meantime, I'll keep you in my prayers as regularly as I can.
Hang in there.
Love,
Grace
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <classof80-request at rvaalumni.org>
To: <classof80 at rvaalumni.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 11:00 AM
Subject: ClassOf80 Digest, Vol 67, Issue 9


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> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 14:37:59 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Nancy Maillefer <nancymaillefer at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [ClassOf80] (no subject)
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Hello,
> ?
> Thanks, Julie, for checking....Yes, I disappeared into oblivion for the 
> last 3 months or more. Sorry - I haven't really written anyone so don't 
> feel abandoned.?
> ?
> The job at the church has been very stressful and I was not treated very 
> respectfully there?yet worked 8-9 hours nonstop a day. It's been very hard 
> to see how things are handled on the inside,?I must say, and I really 
> struggled to see so much money put into 20+ tv's and other fancy 
> technology but very little time in people. It?was a very unconventional 
> church with no denomination, membership, eldership, policies, bylaws, 
> nothing..... just a family business with 3 pastors related.
> ?
> At the end of July, the cleaning lady who was my only friend here and who 
> also struggled with the same issues, told me that she wasn't giving her 
> tithe to the church this month because of the way they were spending money 
> and I said I wasn't either. She told this to someone else who went and 
> told the pastor. July 30th, he fired me (but not the cleaning lady). His 
> main line every Sunday is that you should give your 10% to the church and 
> everything will be fine! (Guess that was my first clue....)
> ?
> It's good as the stress was so high and my father and sister have been 
> wanting me to leave since Easter. Every day was some incident that was not 
> good. However, I've since discovered that churches/nonprofits don't have 
> to pay unemployment so I'm on the street again looking for work! :(?
> ?
> In that same week, I suddenly discovered a lump on my neck and was having 
> severe dizziness with a blocked ear as well.?I think it's due to the 
> stress I've been under. I went to a specialist?and discovered?I had a cyst 
> larger than my thyroid. I had a biopsy last Thurs. and am waiting for 
> results.
> ?
> So, I hope you enjoyed the quiet. I will have time to answer emails now 
> and live again. If you think of me, say a prayer please - I'm struggling 
> with discouragement and about done with church. If it hadn't been for the 
> sweet construction workers, I would have never made it this far. I've 
> lived thru 6 mos. of construction all around my desk and my new 
> desk/office was ready the day I got fired. :(
> ?
> I hope you are all doing better in your corner of the woods. Please know I 
> have not forgotten you!!
> ?? Nancy Maillefer
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: JULIE LINDHOLM <lindholmsi at yahoo.com>
> To: RVA class of '80 <classof80 at rvaalumni.org>
> Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 9:17:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [ClassOf80] (no subject)
>
>
> I'M smiling here deanna...????
>
> i know the whole rez laughs at my battered?baby truck.??? but it always 
> starts!! (also page is a very casual town).
>
> a friend of mine interviewed for a small practice in albuquerque, and the 
> guys told her they all drive bmw's for their image... AND that if she took 
> the job with them she would need to buy a beamer too...??so bizarre.
> she took a different job.
>
> hope your ride can be repaired grace.
>
> PS YOU GUYS...? i?heard thru missionaries that this?economy has?hurt 
> ethiopia's international flower market.??? HUH????
> i guess it is true.?? i'm still trying to imagine that...
>
>
> hey nancy you doing OK out there???
>
> are you canadians getting warm weather YET??
>
> take care all -?? julie
>
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From: nancymaillefer at yahoo.com (Nancy Maillefer)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:36:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [ClassOf80] updates
Message-ID: <573119.72318.qm@web52203.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Hi,

Just a quick response (Julie and Grace.. will write you personally later).

soundboard, advice.... anything is fine. I don't know what I want. I was just letting you all know what's up. 

On another note, I read "So you don't want to go to church" written by one of the authors of?"The Shack" which I've still not read. Very interesting book?that has actually helped me.

Also, God's timing is always gracious - Jon & Vera Steury (not on this list) returned for furlough and took me out to dinner the day I found out about my cyst problems. It was a?great evening and encouragement. Their daughter just got married and #2 child started?school? here in KY.

Also, pray for Carol Viss who's taking her #2 off to college this weekend in Florida. She already brought #1 off to start last week. She's got 2 girls starting at same time. She's also not on the list and has returned to live in the US with her husband/family.

Not much else new yet..

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From: nancymaillefer at yahoo.com (Nancy Maillefer)
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 15:15:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [ClassOf80] Fw: Maasai  Choir
Message-ID: <607651.90842.qm@web52204.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Hey everyone (at least Jon/Lynda/Debbie K./Mark S.)? - just found out this Maasai choir is coming to my church this week. Not sure where you all are located but here's the rest? of the tour if you happen to be near there!!!? Should be interesting.... Here's the other links, pieces of emails I sent to my family and Jon Steury, with whom I had lunch with his family today.




Okay, here's the link!!!? http://www.georgetowncollege.edu/News/archives/2009/8-28.2.htm????? I have to look up this Emily?Brandon who's quoted in the article and I think I saw that she's the one who works with International Students at Georgetown College which is the job I applied for there last year!!!? :(? Sounds like she's on a scholarship program or smthg. so I guess she's working as part of her studies??? Anyway.... they'll be at the college Tues. night and my church Wed. night.?


Here's the rest of the tour? (or here's the link for it)?? http://www.en-kata.com/?page_id=197? (I'll try to ask where the other Chicago location is that last week.)

Sun., Aug. 30th, 8:30&10:30AM Abbeville, LA Harvest Time 
Tues.-Fri., Sept. 1st-3rd Georgetown, KY Georgetown College 
Fri., Sept. 4th, 7PM Clinton, LA Feliciana Harvest Church 
Sat.-Wed., Sept. 5th-9th Brookhaven, MS Christ Church 
Fri., Sept. 11, 6PM Chattanooga, TN Modern Life Church 
Sat., Sept. 12th, TBA Ft. Mill, SC Morningstar School of Ministry (Bonfire) 
Sun., Sept. 13th, TBA Winston Salem, NC Morningstar Fellowship Church 
Sun., Sept. 13th, TBA Highpoint, NC Grace Church (Bonfire) 
Tue., Sept. 15th, Evening, TBA Winston Salem, NC Wake Forest Campus Ministry 
Sat., Sept. 19th, 5PM Fairview Heights, IL Grace Church (Bonfire) 
Sun., Sept. 20th, 8:30, 9:45, 11AM Fairview Heights, IL Grace Church 
Sun., Sept. 20th, 6PM St. Louis, MO Zion City Church 
Wed., Sept. 23rd Kansas City, MO Grandview Assembly 
Sat.-Thurs., Sept. 26th-Oct. 1st Helena, MT TBA 
Sat.-Thurs., Oct. 4th-8th Chicago-land, IL/IN TBA ?
Here's a link with cute photos from Texas? http://www.en-kata.com/?p=299?? and? http://www.en-kata.com/?page_id=8 ?- this one -the second youtube video shows more?of who?they are.? Should be quite something for our tiny little hick town!!!

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From: bwiru80 at yahoo.com (Janice Dunkerton)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 05:33:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [ClassOf80] Mr Fast
Message-ID: <861285.79784.qm@web52911.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Hi all,

Fernando Fast? was 'promoted' to heaven this morning, August 31. For those that don't know, the Fasts worked at RVA and Kijabe for many years.? Their kids attended RVA. They would all appreciate your prayers. Service will be here in Florida.? I will let you know as soon as I hear.
?
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From: bwiru80 at yahoo.com (Janice Dunkerton)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 12:39:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [ClassOf80] hi all
Message-ID: <407720.44085.qm@web52909.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Hi all,
?
Excited - yes, I am going to Darla's wedding on Sunday.? Can't wait to meet her new hubby and I will take photos to put on facebook.? They are also coming to the reunion which is cool.? 
?
Speaking of reunion, we have 30+ classmates coming along with spouses and family and some from the class of 78.? So am really looking forward to it all.
?
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From babynur at peoplepc.com  Mon Aug 31 19:46:01 2009
From: babynur at peoplepc.com (babynur at peoplepc.com)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 20:46:01 -0500
Subject: [ClassOf80] hi all
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Janice,
Can you give us a list of "who's coming"?
Thanks Tammi
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Janice Dunkerton 
  To: RVA class of '80 
  Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 2:39 PM
  Subject: [ClassOf80] hi all


        Hi all,

        Excited - yes, I am going to Darla's wedding on Sunday.  Can't wait to meet her new hubby and I will take photos to put on facebook.  They are also coming to the reunion which is cool.  

        Speaking of reunion, we have 30+ classmates coming along with spouses and family and some from the class of 78.  So am really looking forward to it all.

        Janice 




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